1 00:00:02,127 --> 00:00:04,546 I think what's most exciting for me 2 00:00:04,630 --> 00:00:07,007 is getting to watch Will grow, 3 00:00:07,090 --> 00:00:09,134 and see him just come out of his shell. 4 00:00:09,218 --> 00:00:11,470 Because, throughout the whole story, 5 00:00:11,553 --> 00:00:14,014 Will has been so shy, so fearful 6 00:00:14,097 --> 00:00:16,141 and not able to stand up for himself. 7 00:00:16,225 --> 00:00:19,353 And you really just want to see him, like, fight back. 8 00:00:19,436 --> 00:00:23,774 And the big mid-season finale finally paid off. 9 00:00:23,857 --> 00:00:26,151 Three, two, one, go! 10 00:00:36,203 --> 00:00:38,539 Hey. Hey. Derek. 11 00:00:38,622 --> 00:00:40,958 Derek is very confused. 12 00:00:41,041 --> 00:00:43,669 He thinks some evil child kidnappers 13 00:00:43,752 --> 00:00:45,337 have kidnapped him. 14 00:00:45,420 --> 00:00:49,841 But they're really just trying to lure out the Demogorgons 15 00:00:49,925 --> 00:00:53,679 so they can defeat them and get led straight to Vecna. 16 00:00:53,762 --> 00:00:57,307 This is where I start to become… bait. 17 00:00:58,934 --> 00:01:02,271 Even though Derek tries to run, he tries to escape, 18 00:01:02,354 --> 00:01:04,856 he gets scared out of his boots 19 00:01:04,940 --> 00:01:07,067 'cause he hears the banging on the door. 20 00:01:09,236 --> 00:01:11,530 And then Joyce takes a big… 21 00:01:11,613 --> 00:01:12,489 Stay back! 22 00:01:13,282 --> 00:01:17,077 In the script, it was a kind of bad-word axe. 23 00:01:23,083 --> 00:01:25,377 You want him? You're gonna have to come through me! 24 00:01:29,715 --> 00:01:33,427 And she swings at the Demo, scares him off, 25 00:01:33,510 --> 00:01:37,472 and ultimately Steve comes and hits him with the car. 26 00:01:40,267 --> 00:01:41,852 Oh my God! 27 00:01:47,065 --> 00:01:49,234 Slow down! Jesus Christ! 28 00:01:49,318 --> 00:01:51,403 Jesus! 29 00:01:53,238 --> 00:01:56,325 Joe is one of those that can get in there and drive though. 30 00:01:56,408 --> 00:01:59,244 He's one of our actors that is very good at driving. 31 00:01:59,911 --> 00:02:01,955 Yeah, I do a lot of driving. 32 00:02:02,039 --> 00:02:03,957 I showed up for the first season, 33 00:02:04,041 --> 00:02:06,209 and they said, "You can drive a stick, right?" 34 00:02:06,710 --> 00:02:09,212 And luckily, I could drive a stick. 35 00:02:09,296 --> 00:02:11,757 And I've been sort of driving this car ever since. 36 00:02:15,594 --> 00:02:17,179 We've done some practical. 37 00:02:17,262 --> 00:02:18,930 We've done a lot on the volume 38 00:02:19,014 --> 00:02:21,933 and capture with blue screens, but always fun. 39 00:02:22,017 --> 00:02:25,437 And it runs into the silo and into the Upside Down. 40 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,314 Jesus Christ! 41 00:02:27,397 --> 00:02:29,024 And what a great group. 42 00:02:29,107 --> 00:02:31,777 The four of us in that car, there's never a dull moment. 43 00:02:31,860 --> 00:02:33,862 It's fun and good energy. 44 00:02:33,945 --> 00:02:36,156 Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. 45 00:02:36,239 --> 00:02:37,240 And, cut. 46 00:02:44,748 --> 00:02:45,749 Welcome. 47 00:02:46,792 --> 00:02:52,214 Because Holly and Max have a very loose connection 48 00:02:52,297 --> 00:02:53,340 through Mike, 49 00:02:53,423 --> 00:02:56,510 Max is able to see Holly as her ticket out. 50 00:02:56,593 --> 00:02:58,303 I have a plan. 51 00:02:58,387 --> 00:02:59,763 A plan to get us out of here. 52 00:03:00,347 --> 00:03:01,723 And it's gonna take time. 53 00:03:01,807 --> 00:03:03,850 More time than we have now. 54 00:03:03,934 --> 00:03:06,019 That was a fun scene to shoot 55 00:03:06,103 --> 00:03:07,562 because it was really fun 56 00:03:07,646 --> 00:03:10,649 to see how the arts department 57 00:03:10,732 --> 00:03:14,695 just really turned it into this weird home for Max 58 00:03:14,778 --> 00:03:16,446 that was just this collection of 59 00:03:16,530 --> 00:03:19,408 things that she found in her exploring 60 00:03:19,491 --> 00:03:21,535 through the memories. 61 00:03:21,618 --> 00:03:23,495 So, yeah, the cave is one of my favorite sets 62 00:03:23,578 --> 00:03:24,746 to film on this year. 63 00:03:25,330 --> 00:03:27,374 If you want to escape Camazotz, 64 00:03:28,333 --> 00:03:29,876 this is the only way. 65 00:03:30,377 --> 00:03:31,920 Tell me what I need to do. 66 00:03:39,428 --> 00:03:42,347 You trying to give your old man a heart attack? Nice job. 67 00:03:42,431 --> 00:03:46,184 El heard a kryptonite sound coming from within the base, 68 00:03:46,268 --> 00:03:48,228 so she knows there's someone powerful there, 69 00:03:48,311 --> 00:03:50,731 and the assumption is that it's Vecna, 70 00:03:50,814 --> 00:03:53,108 so they've gotta go into the lion's den. 71 00:04:03,618 --> 00:04:05,912 I'm toying with Hopper, 72 00:04:05,996 --> 00:04:10,000 and he's being strangled slowly to death, 73 00:04:10,083 --> 00:04:14,421 and that's when Eleven comes out, as weak as she is, 74 00:04:14,504 --> 00:04:16,047 to try to protect him. 75 00:04:17,299 --> 00:04:19,843 And then that leads into a big fight scene, 76 00:04:21,219 --> 00:04:24,306 and I got tossed around for a whole day. 77 00:04:24,389 --> 00:04:28,059 You know, but it's business as usual for these guys. 78 00:04:28,602 --> 00:04:29,895 It was huge. 79 00:04:29,978 --> 00:04:32,272 And great fun, great fun. 80 00:04:32,355 --> 00:04:33,356 Scissors. 81 00:04:34,524 --> 00:04:35,776 It was epic. 82 00:04:35,859 --> 00:04:40,405 Linda just brought kind of like this feminine energy 83 00:04:40,489 --> 00:04:45,619 that is so strong and inspirational and motivating. 84 00:04:46,995 --> 00:04:48,497 Oh, you're strong, Linda! 85 00:04:48,580 --> 00:04:51,374 Yes. I hope I don't hurt you. 86 00:04:51,458 --> 00:04:53,293 No, it's all right. I love it. 87 00:04:56,254 --> 00:04:58,298 I just feel like when she steps onto set, 88 00:04:58,381 --> 00:05:00,509 I want to work as hard as she does 89 00:05:00,592 --> 00:05:03,929 to meet her, and she just pushes me. 90 00:05:12,938 --> 00:05:14,189 -Cut. -Cut! 91 00:05:17,067 --> 00:05:18,235 What are you doing? 92 00:05:18,318 --> 00:05:20,904 You gotta go. You gotta go. Come on. 93 00:05:22,739 --> 00:05:25,492 It's a powerful moment because… 94 00:05:26,993 --> 00:05:29,287 You're gonna find Nancy and the others. 95 00:05:29,371 --> 00:05:31,414 Whoa. Hey. 96 00:05:31,498 --> 00:05:32,415 What is that? 97 00:05:32,999 --> 00:05:34,376 It's just a failsafe, okay? 98 00:05:34,459 --> 00:05:35,335 -A failsafe. -No. 99 00:05:35,418 --> 00:05:36,711 It's the ultimate betrayal. 100 00:05:36,795 --> 00:05:40,006 Hopper was planning on leaving her. 101 00:05:40,799 --> 00:05:42,008 It's hard. 102 00:05:42,092 --> 00:05:43,468 I am so proud of you. 103 00:05:43,552 --> 00:05:45,470 I am so proud of what you've overcome, 104 00:05:47,597 --> 00:05:49,099 I'm proud of who you are. 105 00:05:49,724 --> 00:05:50,600 No! 106 00:05:51,101 --> 00:05:53,103 I think the biggest challenge for him is 107 00:05:53,812 --> 00:05:59,568 having to live with this toxically masculine heroism 108 00:06:00,151 --> 00:06:04,239 that contains deep love but also deep betrayal 109 00:06:04,322 --> 00:06:05,782 of the people that love him. 110 00:06:05,866 --> 00:06:08,702 But he sees it as his only answer, I think. 111 00:06:08,785 --> 00:06:12,122 And I think that's… what ultimately makes it beautiful, 112 00:06:12,205 --> 00:06:14,833 but it winds up straining a lot of relationships 113 00:06:14,916 --> 00:06:17,002 as well when people find out about it, 114 00:06:17,085 --> 00:06:18,420 and he has a lot of guilt 115 00:06:18,503 --> 00:06:21,298 about what he's doing, but he has to do it. 116 00:06:26,303 --> 00:06:28,805 At the end, they finally reach the door 117 00:06:28,889 --> 00:06:31,057 where they believe Vecna is behind, 118 00:06:31,141 --> 00:06:33,226 but they learn that it's not Vecna 119 00:06:33,310 --> 00:06:34,936 but in fact Kali 120 00:06:35,020 --> 00:06:39,065 who I think probably nobody is expecting to be behind that door. 121 00:06:39,149 --> 00:06:43,320 And of course, when we reveal that Kali is there and Vecna is not, 122 00:06:43,403 --> 00:06:47,324 the twist, of course, is that he's coming into Hawkins. 123 00:06:51,036 --> 00:06:53,622 Welcome to our battle zone here. 124 00:06:53,705 --> 00:06:56,041 We have a lot to talk through and show you around. 125 00:06:57,626 --> 00:07:01,588 The MAC-Z is absolutely one of the most hectic, chaotic, 126 00:07:01,671 --> 00:07:04,799 crazy, and rewarding sequences I've ever shot. 127 00:07:09,179 --> 00:07:12,140 There's dozens of stunt people, close to 100 extras, 128 00:07:12,223 --> 00:07:14,893 there's Demogorgons, there's monsters, 129 00:07:14,976 --> 00:07:18,897 and fire and explosions and giant chase sequences. 130 00:07:18,980 --> 00:07:20,565 -Go! -Come on, guys! 131 00:07:21,358 --> 00:07:24,069 So, behind me you can see a bunch of cranes with wires. 132 00:07:24,152 --> 00:07:25,612 We're setting up for the battle. 133 00:07:25,695 --> 00:07:29,324 Those cranes are for the stunts 'cause they're connected to wires. 134 00:07:29,407 --> 00:07:33,620 And they get pulled and thrown, and it's pretty cool watching it. 135 00:07:33,703 --> 00:07:35,163 Three, two, one, go! 136 00:07:37,290 --> 00:07:40,627 We took the most time prepping it. 137 00:07:40,710 --> 00:07:43,964 We had a total of 50 kills in that sequence. 138 00:07:44,047 --> 00:07:46,758 There's a lot of stunt folks that were working. 139 00:07:46,841 --> 00:07:49,094 I had 56 amazing stunt folks that came out 140 00:07:49,177 --> 00:07:51,471 and just thrashed themselves for us. 141 00:07:57,310 --> 00:07:58,395 Thank you, guys. 142 00:07:59,771 --> 00:08:00,689 The Radio Shack. 143 00:08:00,772 --> 00:08:02,524 If we move quick, we can make it. 144 00:08:02,607 --> 00:08:03,650 Get into the tunnels 145 00:08:03,733 --> 00:08:06,236 and get the hell out of here, okay? Eyes on me. 146 00:08:06,319 --> 00:08:09,531 When I read the MAC-Z fight, I was like, oh man. 147 00:08:09,614 --> 00:08:13,410 It says "Mike leads the kids through a battlefield," basically. 148 00:08:13,493 --> 00:08:17,455 And I was like, oh man, I should probably start running 149 00:08:17,539 --> 00:08:20,000 'cause I've never done that kind of work before. 150 00:08:24,462 --> 00:08:26,881 It was pretty amazing to be someone 151 00:08:26,965 --> 00:08:30,802 who's like the protector and trying to get these kids out 152 00:08:30,885 --> 00:08:32,303 without getting hurt. 153 00:08:32,387 --> 00:08:34,723 It felt kinda nice and full circle. 154 00:08:34,806 --> 00:08:36,891 It's almost like protecting your younger self. 155 00:08:36,975 --> 00:08:38,935 So, that was pretty cool. 156 00:08:39,436 --> 00:08:40,311 All right, cut. 157 00:08:41,521 --> 00:08:44,983 So this is the rift to the Upside Down. 158 00:08:45,066 --> 00:08:48,903 As you can see, it's huge. There's blue screen behind there, 159 00:08:48,987 --> 00:08:51,614 so they're gonna add in a whole layer of rift 160 00:08:51,698 --> 00:08:53,616 and vines and slime, 161 00:08:53,700 --> 00:08:55,660 and that's where Vecna will walk through. 162 00:09:03,877 --> 00:09:05,170 I love that scene. 163 00:09:05,253 --> 00:09:09,966 It's really the first time we see new Vecna in this season. 164 00:09:11,051 --> 00:09:14,012 He comes out of this big gate 165 00:09:14,095 --> 00:09:17,640 and just starts causing utter mayhem. 166 00:09:17,724 --> 00:09:20,310 I mean, we're throwing people against walls. 167 00:09:20,393 --> 00:09:22,812 I think somebody gets set on fire at some point. 168 00:09:22,896 --> 00:09:24,814 I pull some pins out of someone's grenade 169 00:09:24,898 --> 00:09:27,108 and chuck them against a big gas tank. 170 00:09:30,361 --> 00:09:32,197 I spin a Humvee over 171 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,657 to find Winona who faces off against me. 172 00:09:34,741 --> 00:09:35,867 Stay away from him! 173 00:09:35,950 --> 00:09:39,120 I just chuck her to one side, and it's really enjoyable. 174 00:09:39,204 --> 00:09:40,205 I loved it. 175 00:09:43,083 --> 00:09:48,129 His body, thanks to Nancy, is completely ravaged 176 00:09:48,213 --> 00:09:49,589 at the end of Season 4. 177 00:09:53,259 --> 00:09:57,013 The film Hellraiser has always been a major influence on Vecna 178 00:09:57,097 --> 00:09:59,599 and his character and his design. 179 00:09:59,682 --> 00:10:02,769 Specifically Pinhead, where you have a monster 180 00:10:02,852 --> 00:10:05,438 or a body being rebuilt supernaturally. 181 00:10:05,522 --> 00:10:10,610 So, he is able to rebuild his body bigger and badder. 182 00:10:13,822 --> 00:10:17,951 We are in the BGFX lair. 183 00:10:18,034 --> 00:10:22,038 We are testing Vecna 2.0. 184 00:10:26,709 --> 00:10:28,545 We called him Vecna 2.0. 185 00:10:28,628 --> 00:10:31,506 His body was increased in size. 186 00:10:31,589 --> 00:10:33,842 We had lots of negative space on the body as well 187 00:10:33,925 --> 00:10:36,386 so you could see through these vines and shapes. 188 00:10:37,095 --> 00:10:39,430 This is something we would not be able to achieve 189 00:10:39,514 --> 00:10:41,057 with practical makeup effects, 190 00:10:41,141 --> 00:10:46,312 so we fell on this middle ground where we did head and shoulders 191 00:10:46,396 --> 00:10:47,605 on Jamie. 192 00:10:47,689 --> 00:10:51,401 And we had a Lycra skintight catsuit, 193 00:10:51,484 --> 00:10:53,653 made for Jamie, covered in tracking markers 194 00:10:53,736 --> 00:10:54,779 for visual effects. 195 00:10:55,488 --> 00:10:57,073 From the top of the chest down, 196 00:10:57,157 --> 00:11:00,785 all of his body would be augmented and created digitally. 197 00:11:02,537 --> 00:11:05,456 With the aspect of him being less human, 198 00:11:05,540 --> 00:11:07,542 we also wanted to push the envelope 199 00:11:07,625 --> 00:11:10,503 with his sort of weaponized arm. 200 00:11:10,587 --> 00:11:14,132 So, the left hand that he used so much in Season 4, 201 00:11:14,215 --> 00:11:16,634 we wanted to take that up a notch. 202 00:11:18,178 --> 00:11:21,097 It can expand and flex and change form 203 00:11:21,181 --> 00:11:23,308 in a way that is new this season. 204 00:11:28,771 --> 00:11:32,692 We knew we wanted a big moment at the end of Volume 1, 205 00:11:32,775 --> 00:11:35,945 and we've always known that Will 206 00:11:36,029 --> 00:11:39,657 has a connection to Vecna and the Upside Down. 207 00:11:41,075 --> 00:11:43,912 And so one of the earliest ideas of this season is, 208 00:11:43,995 --> 00:11:46,998 what if Will was able to harness these feelings 209 00:11:47,081 --> 00:11:50,793 and these powers and turn them against our villains? 210 00:11:50,877 --> 00:11:53,963 I was like, they're going to do something truly insane, 211 00:11:54,047 --> 00:11:55,215 and they did. 212 00:12:00,386 --> 00:12:02,597 I was like, oh yes. It's happening. This is real. 213 00:12:03,806 --> 00:12:06,559 I think that that's going to be a huge twist 214 00:12:06,643 --> 00:12:09,062 that changes the chemistry of the show as a whole. 215 00:12:10,855 --> 00:12:13,983 Having that moment in that set was incredible. 216 00:12:14,067 --> 00:12:16,069 It felt like an action movie, 217 00:12:16,152 --> 00:12:19,322 getting to stand there with the fire around me 218 00:12:19,405 --> 00:12:20,907 and all the bodies dead, 219 00:12:20,990 --> 00:12:24,911 and I was the only one standing and boom! 220 00:12:31,751 --> 00:12:33,378 His powers are crazy. 221 00:12:34,796 --> 00:12:36,464 Like, that's insane. 222 00:12:41,219 --> 00:12:47,141 Stranger Things 5 is more cinematic in scale than any season before, 223 00:12:47,225 --> 00:12:50,979 but I'm also happy to say that the emotional center 224 00:12:51,062 --> 00:12:52,480 remains the same. 225 00:12:52,563 --> 00:12:56,484 That it's always anchored in these characters that we love. 226 00:12:56,985 --> 00:12:59,570 There is a lot that Will has been dealing with, 227 00:12:59,654 --> 00:13:04,993 so it's not just about him becoming this sort of superhero. 228 00:13:06,119 --> 00:13:09,330 We wanted him to grow as a human 229 00:13:09,414 --> 00:13:13,167 and become a fully formed version of who he is 230 00:13:13,251 --> 00:13:14,752 and truly accept who he is. 231 00:13:14,836 --> 00:13:18,006 Once he's able to do that, he's able to harness these powers. 232 00:13:19,007 --> 00:13:21,801 It was pure joy and excitement filming that stuff 233 00:13:21,884 --> 00:13:24,095 because, oh my God, like I feel like any actor 234 00:13:24,178 --> 00:13:26,222 dreams of getting a moment like that. 235 00:13:27,015 --> 00:13:31,269 It was like, I mean, honestly, one of like highlights of my career. 236 00:13:31,352 --> 00:13:32,645 Ready, and kill! 237 00:13:33,438 --> 00:13:36,524 There's such joy that I felt that night. 238 00:13:36,607 --> 00:13:38,192 Oh, like, it was amazing.